How Australia Legalized Psychedelic Therapy
#883: How to Legalize Medical Psychedelics in Your Country — Tania de Jong on The Playbook Behind Australia's World-First Breakthrough
The brief
Australia became the first country to let doctors prescribe MDMA and psilocybin for PTSD and depression, after a five-year campaign led by two entrepreneurs with no medical background. Tania de Jong and her husband built an advisory panel, trained 750 clinicians, and drove 13,000 public submissions, pushing the regulator to reclassify both drugs in February 2023.
Key takeaways
- Australia became the first country to legalize prescribing MDMA and psilocybin for mental illness
- The TGA rescheduling followed 13,000 public submissions, the largest response in the regulator's history (16:07)
- Mind Medicine Australia trained over 750 clinicians before regulators approved prescribing (22:36)
- Australian clinics report 60 to 80 percent remission versus 10 to 15 percent for standard PTSD and depression treatment (57:24)
- A full treatment course costs about $15,000 USD, driven almost entirely by therapist time, not drug cost (93:00)
The episode in cards
In November 2022, the head of Australia's drug regulator predicted that ten or fifteen people would show up to hear a pitch about legalizing psilocybin and MDMA for mental illness. A hundred and forty people came, some in the room, some on Zoom, all staff from the Department of Health and the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), Australia's version of the US Food and Drug Administration (39:35). That gap between what officials expected and what actually happened is a fair summary of the whole story that follows: an outsider's project that kept outgrowing everyone's estimate of it.
The outsider was Tania de Jong, a singer and social entrepreneur who says she had never taken alcohol, coffee, or any drug at all until she read a 2015 New Yorker article called "The Trip Treatment," by journalist Michael Pollan, about a Johns Hopkins trial using psilocybin for depression (03:55). She and her husband Peter could not get into a clinical trial, so in 2016 they flew to the Netherlands and took a large dose of psilocybin combined with Syrian rue, a plant that contains MAO inhibitors, chemicals that slow the breakdown of psychedelic compounds and can intensify the experience (61:35, 63:41). De Jong was frightened enough beforehand to email her accountant a letter of last wishes (05:48). What followed, she says, changed how she saw everything afterward, down to "every seashell, cloud, leaf, blade of grass" (06:55).
Two years and a second trip later, the couple, who had already founded five charities together, decided to apply what had happened to them at a national scale. In 2018, Rick Doblin, founder of the MDMA research group MAPS, told de Jong she should start a charity in Australia. She and Peter launched Mind Medicine Australia (MMA) in February 2019 (10:39, 12:52). Their target was the TGA, which controls what drugs can be prescribed in Australia the way the FDA does in the United States. Psilocybin and MDMA sat in Schedule 9, the prohibited category; MMA wanted them moved to Schedule 8, a controlled category used for medicines available by prescription (13:57, 14:30).
A campaign built like a franchise
The first two applications to the TGA were rejected, at both the interim and final stages (14:30). Rather than walk away, de Jong's husband rewrote the case to answer the regulator's specific objections point by point, and the couple built out a machine to support the next attempt. They opened more than 30 volunteer chapters around the country, from Byron Bay to Perth, each supplied with the same templates and precedents so ordinary Australians could file effective public submissions (21:00, 22:11). Alongside that grassroots layer, MMA had already begun training clinicians in 2021 through a certificate in psychedelic-assisted therapy; that program has since trained more than 750 psychiatrists, psychologists, doctors, nurses, and other practitioners (22:36). Those clinicians pressured their own professional bodies, adding institutional weight to the public campaign.
De Jong also built what she calls a world-leading advisory panel of about 75 researchers and clinicians, recruited largely through conferences and a chain of introductions that started when she spoke and sang at a 2018 event hosted by psilocybin developer Usona in Madison, Wisconsin (26:29, 29:29). That is how she met Robin Carhart-Harris and David Nutt, the Imperial College London neuropsychopharmacologist who became one of MMA's most visible allies. In 2022, MMA flew Nutt to Australia for a public roadshow through Byron Bay, Sydney, Canberra, and Melbourne, then brought him into the TGA itself to present the clinical evidence directly to regulators (24:14, 39:01). Ahead of Nutt's TGA presentation, MMA arranged for a widow named Vanessa to speak first. Her husband, Franco, had developed severe depression with no prior history, tried every available treatment, and died before Australia rescheduled the medicines (40:16). De Jong recalls the argument that mattered most to regulators that day:
"There's a risk to not doing anything... if you don't reschedule these medicines, that's actually a risk because patients who've tried everything, like Franco, might end up taking their own lives." — Tania de Jong [45:29]
On February 3, 2023, the TGA rescheduled psilocybin and MDMA from Schedule 9 to Schedule 8, making Australia the first country to allow prescription use of both drugs for psychiatric conditions (42:53). The submission process behind that decision drew more than 13,000 public comments, the largest response the TGA had ever received for a rescheduling matter, with roughly 98 percent supporting the change (16:07).
The data, the cost, and what comes next
Rescheduling was the opening, not the finish. Psychiatrists now have to apply individually to the TGA for what is called authorized prescriber status, submitting protocols covering dosage and setting, which are reviewed by both the TGA and an independent ethics committee (44:06). As of the interview, more than 120 psychiatrists held that status, up from one or two in early 2024, and roughly 400 patients had been treated across more than 20 clinics (53:06, 44:38). Early prescribing skews toward MDMA for trauma over psilocybin for depression, roughly 70 to 30, partly because clinicians found MDMA more manageable to start with (47:41). Reported remission rates in Australian clinics run 60 to 80 percent, compared with 10 to 15 percent for standard antidepressant and PTSD treatments, with no serious adverse events reported to the TGA so far (47:16, 57:24). De Jong points to another pattern that distinguishes the therapy from long-term medication: after two or three doses, remission tends to keep climbing during the months of talk therapy that follow, rather than plateauing the way antidepressant response often does (85:00).
None of this comes cheap. A full three-to-four-month course, including screening, dosing sessions, and integration therapy, runs to roughly $15,000 in US dollars, a figure driven almost entirely by therapist time rather than the cost of the drugs themselves (93:00, 94:27). To close that gap, MMA has recruited payers including Australia's Department of Veterans' Affairs, the National Disability Insurance Scheme, and the insurer Medibank, whose Gold-tier members can have most of the cost covered (58:19). MMA is also raising 2.5 million Australian dollars for its own patient support fund to subsidize treatment for veterans, first responders, and others who cannot pay upfront (115:00).
De Jong is candid about what went wrong along the way. Some researchers who had built careers on years-long trial timelines saw the push for faster access as a threat to their work and attacked the campaign personally; some volunteers who joined MMA because they were themselves suffering were not, in de Jong's words, in a stable enough place for high-pressure advocacy work (75:07, 78:17). She also allows that her own persistence sometimes tipped into being simply too pushy, prompting one regulatory adviser to complain publicly about the volume of MMA's outreach (109:20). Looking back, she does not think a softer approach would have worked, but she has scaled back the instinct to keep knocking on doors that are clearly shut.
What she keeps returning to, though, is not strategy but what the medicines themselves taught her, borrowed from a phrase she heard from the late Harvard psychologist turned spiritual teacher Ram Dass:
"We're all walking each other home, and I think that's one of the really most important things that these medicines teach you." — Tania de Jong [120:08]
Australia's rescheduling is not final in the sense of settled; it is open-ended, with MMA still negotiating bureaucratic limits like which clinicians can lead dosing sessions. But other regulators are watching. With companies like Compass Pathways and Usona expected to bring psilocybin toward registration elsewhere, and with de Jong's own advisory panel now fielding trainees from Europe, the Gulf, and Asia, the Australian playbook, cold emails, a borrowed choir voice, a widow's testimony, a stubborn refusal to accept no, looks less like a local anomaly and more like a template other countries are starting to copy.
By the numbers
- 750 clinicians clinicians trained by Mind Medicine Australia since 2021
- 120 psychiatrists authorized prescribers of MDMA or psilocybin in Australia
- $15,000 USD cost of a full three-to-four-month treatment course including therapy
In their words
“Underpinning all kinds of disadvantage is usually some kind of mental illness, some kind of trauma, depression, something that has happened to that person in their lives.”
“If you don't reschedule these medicines, that's actually a risk because patients who've tried everything, like Franco, might end up taking their own lives”
“"Once the doors of perception are open, you can never shut them again." And I, I really have found that to be the case”
“We're all walking each other home, and I think that's one of the really most important things that these medicines teach you.”
“You never know until you ask, and most people never ask. And you know what? All you have to do is ask.”
Protocols
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MMA's single-dose screening protocol
Tania de Jong's Melbourne clinic starts every patient with one supervised dose of MDMA or psilocybin before committing them to a full course, so a patient can withdraw after the first session if the therapy is not working for them.
one screening dose, then up to three MDMA doses or two psilocybin doses if the patient continues
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Lemon tek for faster psilocybin onset
Tim Ferriss explains that marinating ground psilocybin mushrooms in lemon juice pre-converts psilocybin into its active form, psilocin, which can cut onset time from 60-90 minutes to roughly 10-15 minutes; he notes that pairing this with Syrian rue, a plant containing MAO inhibitors, can amplify visual effects two to ten times but raises the risk of next-day headache or nausea at high doses.
single-session preparation step before dosing
Questions this episode answers
How did Australia become the first country to legalize psychedelic-assisted therapy?
Australia's drug regulator, the TGA, rescheduled psilocybin and MDMA from prohibited Schedule 9 to controlled Schedule 8 on February 3, 2023, after a campaign by the charity Mind Medicine Australia that included over 13,000 public submissions, the largest response in the regulator's history (16:07, 42:53). The charity also trained more than 750 clinicians and built an advisory panel of about 75 researchers before regulators approved the change (22:36, 26:29).
What remission rates does psychedelic-assisted therapy show in Australia?
Australian clinics report 60 to 80 percent remission rates for patients treated with MDMA or psilocybin-assisted therapy, compared with 10 to 15 percent remission for standard antidepressant and PTSD treatments, according to Mind Medicine Australia co-founder Tania de Jong (47:16, 57:24). No serious adverse events had been reported to the TGA as of the interview.
How much does psychedelic-assisted therapy cost in Australia?
A full three-to-four-month treatment course, including screening, two or three dosing sessions, and integration therapy, costs roughly $15,000 in US dollars, with the therapist time driving most of that cost rather than the drug itself (93:00, 94:27). Some costs can be covered through Australia's Department of Veterans' Affairs, the National Disability Insurance Scheme, or Medibank's Gold-tier health insurance.
How many clinicians in Australia are authorized to prescribe MDMA or psilocybin?
As of the interview, more than 120 psychiatrists in Australia held authorized prescriber status for MDMA, psilocybin, or both, up from just one or two at the start of 2024, according to Tania de Jong (53:06). Roughly 400 patients had been treated across more than 20 clinics nationwide (44:38).
What is lemon tek and does it change a psilocybin trip?
Lemon tek involves marinating ground psilocybin mushrooms in lemon juice, which pre-converts psilocybin into its active metabolite, psilocin, and can shorten onset time from 60-90 minutes down to about 10-15 minutes, as Tim Ferriss describes from personal experience (66:41). Adding Syrian rue, a plant containing MAO inhibitors, can amplify visual effects two to ten times but raises the risk of nausea or headache at higher doses (63:41).
The full read, in cards
Go deeper
- The Trip Treatment — Michael Pollan's 2015 New Yorker piece on a Johns Hopkins psilocybin-for-depression trial that first inspired Tania de Jong to try psychedelics
- How to Change Your Mind — Michael Pollan's book that features researcher Robin Carhart-Harris and helped shift mainstream interest in psychedelics
- Be Here Now — Ram Dass's book describing giving a large LSD dose to his guru Maharaji with no apparent effect
- MAPS phase 2/3 complex PTSD data — Data showing average diagnosis length of 16-17 years and remission climbing to roughly 68 percent months after MDMA-assisted therapy ended
- ANU real-world evidence registry — A registry funded by Mind Medicine Australia at Australian National University, run independently, collecting baseline and outcome data on psychedelic-assisted therapy patients
Mentioned
Tania de Jong · Mind Medicine Australia · Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) · David Nutt · Rick Doblin · Michael Pollan · Ram Dass · Robin Carhart-Harris · Roland Griffiths · Department of Veterans' Affairs · Medibank · MAPS · Usona · Bill Linton · Gabor Maté · Bessel van der Kolk













